Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 106

03/01/2005 08:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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*+ HB 34 EXPUNGEMENT OF SET ASIDES TELECONFERENCED
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*+ HB 114 TERM. PARENTAL RTS/CINA/DELINQUENCY CASES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 116 MINORS ON LICENSED PREMISES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 116(STA) Out of Committee
+ HB 121 SERVICE AREAS IN SECOND CLASS BOROUGHS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 12 TVS AND MONITORS IN MOTOR VEHICLES TELECONFERENCED
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HB 121-SERVICE AREAS IN SECOND CLASS BOROUGHS                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:43:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced that the  last order of business was HOUSE                                                               
BILL NO.  121, "An  Act relating  to consolidating  or abolishing                                                               
certain service areas in second class boroughs."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[Before the committee was CSHB 121(CRA), Version 24-LS0396\Y.]                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:44:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KACI  SCHROEDER,  Staff  to  Representative  Bill  Thomas,  House                                                               
Community and  Regional Affairs Standing Committee,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, introduced HB  121 on behalf of  the House Community                                                               
and  Regional   Affairs  Standing   Committee.     Ms.  Schroeder                                                               
explained  that when  the state  revenue sharing  program was  in                                                               
place, residents  of subdivisions located outside  of city limits                                                               
were able  to rely  on state  money to  form road  service areas.                                                               
Now that  the revenue  sharing program  is over,  those residents                                                               
are no longer able  to rely on that state money,  and some of the                                                               
service  areas are  not taxing  themselves  adequately enough  to                                                               
maintain services to the roads.   Without adequate service, those                                                               
roads are deteriorating and becoming unsafe.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHROEDER noted  that the  borough bears  ultimate financial                                                               
responsibility  for  the  service  areas;  however,  the  borough                                                               
cannot  assess a  borough-wide tax  and apply  it to  the service                                                               
areas.    The  proposed   legislation  would  allow  second-class                                                               
boroughs to consolidate or abolish  service areas that are either                                                               
nonfunctional  or functioning  below minimum  standards.   At the                                                               
same time,  the bill would  protect those service areas  that are                                                               
taxing  themselves  adequately   and  performing  their  services                                                               
adequately.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:46:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON asked  if  the  reason the  borough  can't tax  and                                                               
distribute  "to the  road service  areas" is  because it  doesn't                                                               
have the taxing power, or because it can't allocate money.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:46:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER said  she doesn't know the specifics  of the taxing                                                               
scheme  for  the borough,  but  she  indicated that  someone  was                                                               
online to testify who could answer that question.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:46:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO asked if the  bill addresses groups or areas                                                               
that are capable of taxing themselves and elect not to.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:46:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER answered yes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:47:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON asked  if the revenue sharing went  to the districts                                                               
themselves, or to the borough to be distributed.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:47:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER said she doesn't know.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:47:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG asked  what the  difference is  between                                                               
the committee substitute (CS) and the original bill.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:47:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHROEDER replied that the CS simply adds an effective date.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:48:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RYNNIEVA MOSS,  Chair, Road Commission, said  she recognizes that                                                               
the [Fairbanks  North Star  Borough] has  a problem  with service                                                               
areas that choose  not to tax themselves and  maintain the roads.                                                               
Those roads create a safety hazard  for the borough, and they are                                                               
used  by ambulances,  fire trucks,  and school  buses.   She said                                                               
there is  a chance  that something could  happen and  the borough                                                               
would be held  liable.  She stated, "This simply  gives a borough                                                               
an opportunity  to get rid of  the risk of being  responsible for                                                               
service areas that aren't maintained."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOSS  revealed the reason she  is following the bill  is that                                                               
she wants  to be assured that  it isn't going to  disrupt service                                                               
areas  that  do  their  job  properly.   She  said,  "I  am  very                                                               
comfortable  with  the  language  here -  that  it  does  protect                                                               
service areas that are doing their  job right, and allows them to                                                               
continue doing their job."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MOSS, regarding  Chair Seaton's  previously stated  question                                                               
about   revenue  sharing,   said,  "That   was  money   that  was                                                               
appropriated to the borough, and  then the borough distributed it                                                               
on a per-mile basis."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:50:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOSS, in response to  a question from Chair Seaton, explained                                                               
that  the borough  sends out  the bills,  while the  service area                                                               
determines  what the  mill  rate  is for  road  maintenance.   In                                                               
response to  a follow-up  question from  Chair Seaton,  she noted                                                               
that  service areas  are formed  by  election of  an area;  rural                                                               
services assist  in deciding  what the  boundaries will  be, then                                                               
the borough clerk arranges for an election.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:51:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO noted  that he had served on  a road service                                                               
area.    He  asked  whether   the  road  service  area  board  is                                                               
submitting a mill rate that is  being rejected by the borough, or                                                               
if it  is submitting  a request  "for zero"  that the  borough is                                                               
accepting.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:52:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MOSS explained  that, in  Fairbanks,  several service  areas                                                               
don't  have boards  anymore, because  the  money dried  up.   The                                                               
borough  acted  as  though  it had  the  authority  to  authorize                                                               
maintenance,   even  though   it  didn't,   because  it   felt  a                                                               
responsibility to keep the roads safe.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:53:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO asked "If there's  no board, but a community                                                               
decides ... [to]  pave the main road leading  into a subdivision,                                                               
are  we saying  that  can't  be done  anymore  by dissolving  the                                                               
board?"                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:53:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOSS answered, "Yes, you are saying that."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:53:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  offered his understanding that  there's nothing [in                                                               
the bill] to prevent a new service area from forming again.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:53:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOSS answered that's correct.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:53:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  offered her  understanding that  the bill                                                               
would  actually eliminate  the liability  that the  [road service                                                               
area] board currently has for  unsafe conditions, but would in no                                                               
way address the issue of unsafe roads.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:54:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOSS answered that's correct.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:54:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  asked  if  the  borough  would  remain                                                               
responsible  for  the   roads  if  the  road   service  area  was                                                               
abolished.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:54:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOSS answered no.  She  clarified that, currently, as long as                                                               
a  service area  exists, it  is not  a separate  entity from  the                                                               
borough, as  far as liability is  concerned.  The purpose  of the                                                               
bill is to dissolve a service  area that creates some risk, which                                                               
would take away  the liability from the borough.   In response to                                                               
a follow-up  question from  Representative Gruenberg,  she stated                                                               
that the  borough does not  have road service  powers; therefore,                                                               
nobody would be  responsible.  She noted that  there are hundreds                                                               
of roads in the [Fairbanks North  Star Borough] today that do not                                                               
fall under service areas.  She offered examples.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:55:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON  offered  his understanding  [HB  121]  would  only                                                               
address second class boroughs.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:56:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MOSS  answered yes.    She  added,  "Home rules  operate  by                                                               
charter, so  they do have  the capability to  do this, just  in a                                                               
different manner."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:56:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS  thanked Ms.  Moss for  her testimony.   He                                                               
stated that  this issue is a  significant one, and he  noted that                                                               
Fairbanks  has  the full  support  of  the Fairbanks  North  Star                                                               
Borough assembly.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:56:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RENE  BROKER,  Attorney at  Law,  Fairbanks  North Star  Borough,                                                               
stated the  borough's support of  HB 121.   She said  the borough                                                               
has  107 road  service  areas.   She said  the  borough has  been                                                               
confronted with  the cessation of  state funding and  has service                                                               
areas that  are unable  or unwilling to  tax themselves  and thus                                                               
have    essentially    been    legally    nonfunctional    and/or                                                               
dysfunctional.   She stated, "We  don't believe that it's  ever a                                                               
good  policy   decision  to  completely  separate   control  from                                                               
responsibility, which is  where the borough is at  right now with                                                               
its service areas.   So, we're just simply urging  that we regain                                                               
some  control, but  continue  to respect  the  autonomy of  those                                                               
service areas that are functioning as legally intended."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:58:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN  BOCKHORST,   Local  Boundary  Commission,   Central  Office,                                                               
Division   of  Community   Advocacy,   Department  of   Commerce,                                                               
Community,  & Economic  Development, stated  that the  department                                                               
endorses the measure to give  borough governments the flexibility                                                               
to provide for  the efficient delivery of services,  and [HB 121]                                                               
would do that  for second class boroughs.   Notwithstanding that,                                                               
he  said  the department  would  like  to make  two  observations                                                               
regarding  the bill:   First,  there  is nothing  unique about  a                                                               
second class borough that would  suggest that the measures in the                                                               
bill are  needed for  that particular class  of borough,  but not                                                               
for other  classes of  borough.   He said,  as noted  in previous                                                               
testimony,  home rule  borough governments  have the  capacity to                                                               
exempt  themselves from  "this provision,"  but AS  29.35.450 (d)                                                               
applies to  home rule borough  governments.  He noted  that there                                                               
is a  petition currently  pending that  would change  the current                                                               
classification  of  the  Ketchikan Gateway  Borough  from  second                                                               
class to  home rule.  The  provisions of HB 121  would not extend                                                               
to  Ketchikan  if   it  were  to  become  a   home  rule  borough                                                               
government.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOCKHORST stated his second  observation is that the bill, as                                                               
written,  gives greater  flexibility and  authority to  a general                                                               
law,  second  borough  than  it  does  to  a  home  rule  borough                                                               
government,  and  under  Alaska's   constitution,  home  rule  is                                                               
intended to provide for maximum local self government.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:00:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON closed public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced that HB 121 was heard and held.                                                                          

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